Antagelig 1830 - The Thorvaldsens Museum Archives


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No. 5022 of 10318

Sender	Date	Recipient
Bertel Thorvaldsen [+] Sender’s Location Rom	Antagelig 1830 [+] Dating based on Dateringen er baseret på den mere sikre datering af endnu et udkast, der synes at være en mere færdig form af dette. Det mere færdige udkast er skrevet på Thorvaldsens skitse til Monumentet over George Gordon Byron, C352, der stammer fra 1830. Koop havde dog økonomiske problemer de sidste mange år af sit liv.	Jonas Collin [+] Recipient’s Location København Information on recipient Ingen udskrift, da der er tale om et udkast.
Abstract Thorvaldsen asks Jonas Collin to help the history painter Andreas Ludvig Koop financially.

Sender

Date

Recipient

Bertel Thorvaldsen [+]

Sender’s Location

Rom

Antagelig 1830 [+]

Dating based on

Dateringen er baseret på den mere sikre datering af endnu et udkast, der synes at være en mere færdig form af dette. Det mere færdige udkast er skrevet på Thorvaldsens skitse til Monumentet over George Gordon Byron, C352, der stammer fra 1830. Koop havde dog økonomiske problemer de sidste mange år af sit liv.

Jonas Collin [+]

Recipient’s Location

København

Information on recipient

Ingen udskrift, da der er tale om et udkast.

Abstract

Thorvaldsen asks Jonas Collin to help the history painter Andreas Ludvig Koop financially.

De [xx] ærede[?] helste ven [?] H[r.] Connfe[ren]sraad og beder endeleg om at jelpe den arme Koop d[x] [xxxxxxxx] at kunde faae [?]. Haste og bestem[t]. det skal ellers tagen en Sørgelen ende med han og hele han[s] Famelie

[xx] Sir [?] greets friend [?] konferensråd and beg you sincerely to help the poor Koop d[x] [xxxxxxxx} to be able to get [?]. Quickly and certainly. If not he and all his family will come to a sad end.

[Translated by Karen Husum]

General Comment
This draft must form the basis of another draft, which is found on Thorvaldsen’s sketch for the Monument to George Gordon Byron, C352. The draft is probably addressed to Jonas Collin in his capacity as secretatry of Fonden ad Usus Publicos, from whom Koop applied for support several times, e.g. in 1830. The draft is difficult to decipher, partly because it is written in very faint ink and also because of many spelling mistakes and a cramped hand. See the related articles about Thorvaldsen’s Spoken and Written Language and Thorvaldsen’s Letter Writing Proces for more about Thorvaldsen’s difficulties in this respect.
Archival Reference
m35 I, nr. 18
Document Type
Draft, autograph
Thiele
Ikke omtalt hos Thiele.
Subjects
Recommendation by Thorvaldsen · Thorvaldsen as Mentor for Other Artists · Thorvaldsen's Letter Writing Process · Thorvaldsen's Spoken and Written Language
Persons
Andreas Ludvig Koop

General Comment

This draft must form the basis of another draft, which is found on Thorvaldsen’s sketch for the Monument to George Gordon Byron, C352.

The draft is probably addressed to Jonas Collin in his capacity as secretatry of Fonden ad Usus Publicos, from whom Koop applied for support several times, e.g. in 1830.

The draft is difficult to decipher, partly because it is written in very faint ink and also because of many spelling mistakes and a cramped hand. See the related articles about Thorvaldsen’s Spoken and Written Language and Thorvaldsen’s Letter Writing Proces for more about Thorvaldsen’s difficulties in this respect.

Archival Reference

m35 I, nr. 18

Document Type

Draft, autograph

Thiele

Ikke omtalt hos Thiele.

Subjects

Recommendation by Thorvaldsen · Thorvaldsen as Mentor for Other Artists · Thorvaldsen's Letter Writing Process · Thorvaldsen's Spoken and Written Language

Persons

Andreas Ludvig Koop